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PostSubject: knaaaan vs Cobra   Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:09 am

He beat me with loki on Savannah. Any tips would be much appreciated
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PostSubject: Re: knaaaan vs Cobra   Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:37 pm

I think you begin very very very good but the finish was bad

I think you did not play how are you used to, and maybe because you knew who was your rival. But that should not matter (which also happens to me)

I'm not pro but when I look at the games I notice errors And i think you didnt the decisive attack when you could have won, and the rest is that he has more experience and did a good economy and when the economy loki is super good, it is very hard to win

but you now are 175++ man

and I feel very good for you Wink

continues to improve


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PostSubject: Re: knaaaan vs Cobra   Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:48 pm

Man u had several mistakes..... To be honest, u played terribly.....
First, u had enough army to rush him, but u didn´t...
Second, U let him boom and obviously he outboomed u....
Third, U could have blocked his gold,but u neither did that.
fourth, U played extremely passive.... neither rush nor raid nor nothing.... what was ur plan btw?


Ur beginning was fine but ur late game sucked.... U gotta be more aggressive, creative (like walling or build some towers around gold mines), smart.... don´t wait until ur opponent attacks u... Go first and defeat him as soon as possible!!!!

U c an beat him easily.... u just have to trust yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: knaaaan vs Cobra   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:14 pm

hope you guys dont mind me participating a bit on your forum Razz


gold starve @ ten mins as zeus vs norse is pretty simple and a quick win (quick wins are best if possible, imo). norse' gold runs out at 10 mins almost every game, so use your scout better (it was in the vicinity of the mine, but not near enough for los u could utilize).
so, it was close to 12 mins before u started running ur [slow] army over to that far gold mine. u gotta expect him to go to that one since it's more protected cuz of distance. so right around that point you were around full pop with some extra resources -> get medium tox+hops and get odysseus out, then go gold starve with resto. you wasted resto early, imo. big waste. that woulda won u the game right there.

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right around that crucial ten min. mark, you were just wasting time with your army. you weren't putting pressure on him or really doing much defense at all, just sorta goofin off >< (chasing that pegasus....). Even though he had back gold, it's sav so you can still do an effective athena rush. You just weren't aggressive enough and you let some small raids by his hersir completely knock you off balance and off 'your game'. You gotta stay focused, react properly to the raids but then hit him back harder so that he can't afford the time nor the units to be raiding you. i think this is a nice situation where the classic quote comes in handy: offense is the best defense.
i was watching on fast forward, but the first thing u gotta do is knock him off hunt, i wasn't noticing where his hunt was when u both adv'd, but that's #1, then go to his tower/temple and start knockin that down. hersir are hella expensive when you have no hunt.
use your tox more to pick off units. hops are strong and shit, but eventually he had a big chunk of axes handy that would pick off your hops in nothin flat. so get a nice chunk of tox (they counter hersir as well as ta, aynways) if you're needing to fight a larger sized army, and as you both are moving your army around, there are plenty of times when his units are in range, and simply kiting your hops away will get you a few easy kills.
I didn't really pay attention to your economy macro, (this happens to me even when i know it's going to happen and try to plan for it haha) the only thing i have to say about that is that when you're athena rushing in classical, early class. you'll have ample gold for unit production, then BAM, after a few mins in you're suddenly almost gold starved, so u naturally start piling vills onto gold, then BAM a few mins later your eco is crazy imbalanced again and u have epic gold and no food or wood for farms. so ya, gradually build your gold eco in classical even though it doesn't seem like u should be putting vills on gold, just do it to keep your eco more well rounded throughout that part of the game. So, like i said i was watching on fast forward, but it seemed like a few mins into classical, you seemed to always be waiting for a bit more gold to keep creating units Razz

thats enough i think ^^. sux losing to cobra, he's an egotistical fuck
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PostSubject: Re: knaaaan vs Cobra   Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:34 am

thank you for the advice warrior, fiera, and maiden. Very Happy You are all right i need to be more assertive and confident in my game play. I tend to be get intimidated by better players and very defensive. Sometimes it feels like i am waiting to loose, rather then trying to win.
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PostSubject: Re: knaaaan vs Cobra   Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:24 pm

I really liked your game. I have seen very good things. get the middle of the game and get your TC. Well played.
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